Chrono Compendium
Enhasa Halls - Chrono Series Analysis => Reality, Real-World Connections, and the Supernatural => Topic started by: Magus068 on June 15, 2006, 01:25:34 pm
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As describe by Nostradamus that there will be 3 Anti-Christ that will deceive the world and lead them to oblivion. I can compare this these anti-christ to some leaders in Chrono Trigger & Chrono Cross.
The 1st anti-christ was Queen Zeal. She convince most citizens of the Zeal Kingdom that if they follow her, she will grant them immortality which eventually lead them to their doom.
The 2nd anti-christ was Magus. Like Hitler, He leads an army Mystics to rid the world of humans. His leadership cause the downfall of mystics.
The 3rd anti-christ is the Leader of Porre( Probably Lynx himself). He rallies the citizens of Porre to take arms against Guardia. The "Fall of Guardia" causes pain & suffering to people. And like all militaristic country it will eventually destroys itself.
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Actually, Nostradamus predicted one Anti-Christ and wrote three different prophecies about him, writing three different descriptions about different parts of the single event of his coming. I'd go with Queen Zeal being the Anti-Christ, since she actually brings the world near oblivion and is in league with the devil (Lavos) and hastens the Apocalypse of 1999.
Magus is a redeemable figure and the leader of Porre is just your run of the mill tyrant dictator.
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I guess your right.... I didn't get the fact straight. Sorry.
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Don't be discouraged! You should take a look at the Chrono Trigger Testament, you'd probably find it very interesting.
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Yes, you would! It's really quite awesome.
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I doubt Lavos is the Devil. The Devil doesn't work in that manner. If you look at it Islamic way, you'd see that Lavos could be the Antichrist, as he came to the earth ages ago, and was actually alive the entire time, and...what else...yeah. Queen Zeal though, yeah. And Magus isn't pure evil either, and he isn't Anti-Crono (if we assume Crono is Jesus.
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Well Jesus doesn't use swords either, but you gotta give them some liberty :P
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Well, he did use a cat-o-nine-tails when he kicked the shit outta those money changers.
The most divine figure in Chrono is Lavos. Except in Chrono's case, the divine figure is an evil black hearted son of a bitch.
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Actually, I'd think the most divine figure is the Entity/Planet, since it has that Gaia/Lifestream/Mother Earth thang goin' down for it. Lavos is more like the Demiurge from Gnosticism.
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Your right Lavos is more like the
Demiurge from Gnosticism
than the devil or somthing like that.
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at least in the end they talk about a devine entity, that means somehow they believe in God, unlike CC this is what i hate about it coz it divertz everything to the theory of evolution.......for me that sucks, evolution doesnt have anything to do with magic.......specialy demons.........
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Demons, magic, and God can still coexist in Evolution. Evolution in CT/CC is promoted and allowed by Magic, for the human race.
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you are right about the game evo thing, thats realy cool.....i just dont believe it in terms of reality......
thats why i love this game :lol:
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you are right about the game evo thing, thats realy cool.....i just dont believe it in terms of reality......
thats why i love this game :lol:
It depends what reality are you talking about. Remember that there are infinite number of Realities or dimension. Its possible that what you said earlier existed in one of those realities or dimension.
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In theory. There's no actual factual evidence that there's multiple realities.
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What you said is true. However, that theory was neither proved or disproved up to this day.
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Actually, I'd think the most divine figure is the Entity/Planet, since it has that Gaia/Lifestream/Mother Earth thang goin' down for it. Lavos is more like the Demiurge from Gnosticism.
Yeah, well Gnosticism is a little... strange. Actually, it DOES strike me as seeming a lot like the strange amalgam of western and eastern theology/philosophy that so many fantasy stories seem fond of - little wonder that Lavos bears resemblence to it. In actuality, Demiurge in the Gnostic idea is simply an appropriate of the true meaning of the term. It (Demiourgos in Gk) denotes a skilled craftsman, and was the term Classical Greek philosophers used to describe an ultimate creator god, as opposed to the traditional polytheistic beliefs. Contrary to what might be thought, the Greeks seemed to have a keen awareness or glimpse of monotheism, or at least an understanding that their pantheon might not be exactly that of Homer and Hesiod. I just read a passage where a Chorus says something like 'Zeus, whatever his name might be', and I've seen others which have Herakles saying that he does not believe the gods could commit adultery - that whatever is truly god is beyond all that, a perfect god, or passages in which Zeus seems to be spoken of more like the Jewish God, an eternal Creator and all that, rather than the Johnny-come-lately Zeus that is Greek mythological 'canon'. Thus, we get philosophers thinking of a higher God, and we get the term used being Demiurge.
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thats right the only reality thats true is what you make for your own reality!
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thats right the only reality thats true is what you make for your own reality!
Heh. Need me to bring up Harle's quote? If you deny reality, it will crush you.