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Title: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: BROJ on March 09, 2008, 09:06:10 pm
So anyways; I was curious what the Compendium's opinion on who the 8th character slot should be filled with. For those who don't know, and new members, the 8th character hack was a project undertaken back in April 2007 by justin3009, TheOutlaw, Vehek, JLukas, and Mauron. Right now it's being as a technical thread, so you can see (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,4100.150.html) what's been completed so far. Just don't spam the thread with stupid, unproductive things such as: "Dude, when's this thing gonna be done!?", okay. :wink:

For the record: I think it would be cool if Slash was in the party.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: FaustWolf on March 09, 2008, 09:38:15 pm
I voted for Schala, because she simply kicks ass -- IF some kickass sprites are made. However, from a practical standpoint, Slash is already ready to go; he's got all the necessary battle sprites, and isn't a total bastage.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: nightmare975 on March 09, 2008, 11:20:26 pm
I say Atropos, just because it would be easier to use Robo's sprites.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Kebrel on March 10, 2008, 02:06:48 am
I personally think Toma should get the lime light.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: rushingwind on March 10, 2008, 02:56:33 am
Schala.  No question about it in my opinion.  :)
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on March 10, 2008, 03:03:00 am
I voted for Alfador for various reasons: 1) it makes probably the most sense story-wise, 2) it's damn sad when Alfador follows Magus around in the remnants of the Earthbound Village and then you just end up leaving him there, 3) smallest sprite, probably easiest animations, 4) the one cliche that Trigger needed was a cutesy animal character in the party (I don't count Frog as cutesy), 5) Magus would FINALLY have someone who it'd make sense for him to Double Tech with!

Atropos dies and should stay that way until the future's changed. It gives Robo a nice personal touch.

Human Glenn's more like a sprite swap (or would it just be easier to make it the 8th character slot?)...Though it's definately got the coolness factor going for it...& it makes enough sense if you kill Magus...and maybe if you recruit him you can get him to reverse the spell anyways? If you're gonna hack it you might as well go all out, right?

Kino? Bleh...who's gonna protect the village while Ayla's away? I can only imagine him being a kind of Ayla Lite.

Schala doesn't make much sense story-wise...unless maybe you erased Magus from the game after the Ocean Palace Disaster...which might make for a cool Chrono Cross hack tie-in sequel later! lol

Slash...another meh for me. Doesn't make a ton of sense story-wise unless you just say he joins Magus after they're defeated just for kicks or something...Plus, I'd just see him as a Crono Lite...or maybe a slightly better version of Frog...? Some inbetween probably...
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: placidchap on March 10, 2008, 10:34:22 am
For the record: I think it would be cool if Slash was in the party.

Again, I have to agree with you.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Peaceman on March 10, 2008, 11:55:38 pm
If Alfador were in the party, it'd be soo awesome to hack the game a little bit more and be able to face Lavos one on one with Alfador.  I know I'd get a kick outta that.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on March 11, 2008, 03:10:30 am
I voted for Glenn, but honestly, all of those would be very cool and damn impressive if you can pull it off.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: maggiekarp on March 11, 2008, 01:19:36 pm
I'd only vote for Alfador if there could be a Magus-Alfador-Crono triple tech "Catvalanche".
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on March 11, 2008, 04:44:54 pm
i don't think toma was a choice, but it seems the most sense for him as an 8th character. 

schala wouldn't make sense due to chrono cross.

alfador is a little kitty.  doesn't settle well with me.

glenn (human) should just be a sprite swap for frog, not an 8th character.

slash would be my SECOND vote...  but toma wins FIRST.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Peaceman on March 11, 2008, 10:00:41 pm
yeah, I've always felt that, even if Magus joins your party, Frog should have immediately been transformed back to Glenn...
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Blackcaped_imp on March 12, 2008, 12:14:29 am
Chrono's cat.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Thorn on March 13, 2008, 12:38:46 am
I'm a wee bit up in the air...

Slash makes sense resource-wise, but I'm not great fan.
Schala would be a fan-pleaser (moi included) but would make no sense for CC, and would definately change some basic character motivations.
Alfador...um...no.
Glenn - I agree, a spriteswap for Frog.
Kino's a bit...well, no. Ayla FTW.
Atropos would be like Robo-Lite. And I don't like Cool hWhip Lite compared to Cool hWhip regular, so no.

I have to agree with the "Other" vote for Toma! He's one of those 'key' characters that just doesn't get a great enough time in the limelight - and the story wouldn't really have to change, considering the ghost/grave could still be left in for him.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Glennleo on March 13, 2008, 01:26:20 am
Voted for Schala, becuase CT needs another caster type. I know everyone can cast and such, but Marle, and Lucca, and Magus are mainly the magical ones while Robo, Crono, Frog, and Ayla are more physical. Well Ayla is all physical, so why not make Schala all magical.

Human Glenn would be my next pick, but like others have said I'd just like to see Frog revert back to his human form.

I have never played CC, I know WTF am I doing with my life!, so I don't really understand completely why Schala wouldn't work, but I will definitely take your guys word on it. No doubt things would get messed up stroy wise, so no need to explain it to me.

So for me, Schala, Human Glenn, then Toma and Alfador. Slash is meh since we have 2 swordsman already, Kino and Atropos would be clones of sorts, so no thanks.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on March 13, 2008, 07:28:22 am
Robo's the inbetween. He's both Magic-caster & Physical-powerhouse...though so is Frog to a lesser extent, only he's more focused on healing (but even then he's still crap).

Schala might be cool tho...might be useful if someone else had a friggin LIFE spell...? I always wondered about that...but w/e...

Alfador 4 life! He'd just HAVE to have some Pokemon-Ability named Techs!! lol
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on March 13, 2008, 03:32:45 pm
I can see the alfador techs now:

Whisker
CatScratch
Meow
ClawStrike
Hairball
Meow2
StringChase
CalicoBeam
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: placidchap on March 13, 2008, 03:40:38 pm
I can see the alfador techs now:

Whisker
CatScratch
Meow
ClawStrike
Hairball
Meow2
StringChase
CalicoBeam


Don't forget Sleep
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: OverlordMikey on March 14, 2008, 01:40:32 am
I voted Alfador.....because he's sooooo cute....

However I don't really like any of them....

Slash- not a fan
Schala - *Story loses meaing then BRAIN EXPLODES*
Alfador- Cute, but silly
Glenn - Naaaaaa It would feel odd
Kino- ......NOOOO!!!! Not that I hate him just NOOOOOOO!
Atropos- *Sniff* Let her/it/whatever rest in peace
Toma- THe trama of visiting your own grave.....uh I could deal with it...

How about Doreen! Adding her would have little effect on the story considering......you mearly need to tweek masa and mune's sprites right? Also could work for spell caster I guess!

Janis- Now I'm listing people randomly for my own enjoyment!

Chrono's Mom- *Some one shoots me for being annoying* (obviously the last 2 are jokes)
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: MagilsugaM on March 14, 2008, 06:22:33 am
Just put Crono's cat too make dual techs...
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on March 14, 2008, 09:24:28 am
Pffft...like Crono doesn't have enough Dual Techs? Alfador, man! Magus Dual Techs! He doesn't have ANY!
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: placidchap on March 14, 2008, 09:26:06 am
Pffft...like Crono doesn't have enough Dual Techs? Alfador, man! Magus Dual Techs! He doesn't have ANY!

"The Black Wind Meows"

Slash and Magus could dual tech.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on March 14, 2008, 09:44:06 am
Slash was a douche (that whole trio were)...no way Magus would dual w/him any more than Frog or Crono.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: placidchap on March 14, 2008, 09:55:32 am
Magus was a douchebag too, just more arrogant kind and not the idiotic kind.  And Alfador is a pussy. ha, I couldn't resist.  I laughed anyway.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on March 14, 2008, 11:04:08 am
gwah ha ha ha!

toma visiting his own grave could be a cool scene, though.  and perhaps after he see's it and knows the date of his death, the tombstone can change and have a later date (implying that he altered time and saved himself...?)
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: MagilsugaM on March 14, 2008, 06:07:51 pm
Yes man I like the Idea of puting toma but what no battle sprites.
Another one could be Cyrus making a triple tech with magus and frog....
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on March 14, 2008, 06:31:25 pm
Ugh, that's an even worse idea than having him Double w/Slash! Why would he Tech w/Cyrus, much less Frog?? The only two I could see him actually having Double Techs w/are Alfador & Schala.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: BROJ on March 14, 2008, 06:35:12 pm
Ugh, that's an even worse idea than having him Double w/Slash! Why would he Tech w/Cyrus, much less Frog?? The only two I could see him actually having Double Techs w/are Alfador & Schala.
Now, now, V_Translanka... too each their own.  :lol:
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on March 14, 2008, 06:37:28 pm
Now, now, V_Translanka... too each their own.  :lol:

Somehow I don't think Magus would see it that way...:P
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Kebrel on March 14, 2008, 08:50:10 pm
Toma makes the most sense. He's an explorer, what bigger adventure is there then time. Plus a little editing and he could be picked up in the rainbow shell quest. Every characters story and change is unique. he jouning though time and seeing all he's done, HE'S A LEGEND. And sure he doesn't have any battle animation but nether do most of them.


I can easily see Magus dual-teching with Frog. but only Frog.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on March 17, 2008, 05:19:03 pm
or it could always be toma XVI (or whatever the correct number would be) living in 1000 AD!

i am speaking of the father of toma XVII (or whatever the correct number would be) from chrono cross!
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: maggiekarp on March 17, 2008, 07:05:48 pm
WHAT

ABOUT

GASPAR?!


(also Magus duel-teching with Frog is about as likely as Alfador sprouting wings and flying out of Schala's arse. In other words... I'd probably support it.)
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on March 17, 2008, 08:14:42 pm
ANGEL ARSE ALFADOR TO THE RESCUE!!!!

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3558/zucatcm9.gif)

I would have tried to find a pic of Schala bending over for him to be flying out of...but I just won't go that far for this lame of a joke...anyone else? Eh? lol
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on March 17, 2008, 10:24:12 pm
images of lunar: silver star story complete are flashing through my head.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Skelly on March 23, 2008, 02:20:38 am
Although there aren't any battle sprites for him, it would be pretty neat to see Melchior the blacksmith as playable.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: VincentGAU8 on March 26, 2008, 06:52:58 am
Does it necessarily have to be canon? I mean, i want to see
our beloved Princess of Zeal in battle, she'd be the most powerful
magic user aside from Magus... :)
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on March 26, 2008, 06:51:56 pm
what about inventing a new character?

or taking a character from chrono cross, just younger (ie - zappa, radius, etc)
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: justin3009 on March 26, 2008, 08:31:26 pm
Glenn or Schala imo should be the 8th character.  Hell, the 8th character I was planning to do anyways was Glenn...Most of his human sprites are already completed from when Cheyne and I were bored...and Schala I have quite a few poses ready for her anyways.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on March 31, 2008, 06:37:57 pm
I've been thinking of this list for a while and have come up w/some alternatives I think are all (mostly) better...

Why the hell no Johnny? He was probably the coolest looking NPC...could have some awesome lookin Techs...

Or mebby the Chef or Gold Knight from 600AD?

How about a Mystic? No playable Mystics in CT really...Maybe one of the lame Blue Imps somewhere...lol

Or...NU!!! Though you'd have to flesh some Tech things out...maybe just make it Pink Nu Spekkio instead? That'd be a waaaaaaaaaay better prize than another stupid Nu Tab Set...have him join your party! Can you say overpowered party?
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Thought on March 31, 2008, 06:46:32 pm
Isn't the party already overpowered by the time he even transforms into the Red Nu?
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on March 31, 2008, 07:46:19 pm
Fine, then make it any form of Nu & have his sprites & Techs change accordingly to match his level!
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: MagilsugaM on March 31, 2008, 08:33:22 pm
We can make schala just a spellcaster she don't need to figth just all magic.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Thought on April 01, 2008, 10:46:47 am
Fine, then make it any form of Nu & have his sprites & Techs change accordingly to match his level!

Ooo, I like it. That would be like Pip, only, you know, fun and well done.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on April 01, 2008, 12:54:14 pm
Hmm...a character who's immune to all physical attacks...how can ya not like it? :P
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: VincentGAU8 on April 02, 2008, 03:59:20 am
Whoa.. Spekkio in Nu form as a party member??
haha, nothing's gonna stand in our way now!!  :lol:
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: NeptuneNavigator2001 on April 03, 2008, 02:13:53 am
Schala...  Definitely Schala.  Alfador...???  How the heck would you equip armor on him?  (I mean, logically, it wouldn't fit...  Notwithstanding game mechanics...)  Oh, and to the person who said Magus was a douchebag: Magus is teh best!  Yes, "teh" best.  Ya know, like "teh demo" or something.  But seriously, I'm glad that Prophet's Guile was released; more needs to be explained about the untold parts of his history.  (Off topic, sorry.)
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on April 03, 2008, 06:19:06 am
Oh, c'mon, if they can make the same armors fit onto Lucca as they do Robo (more or less), I think they can make it work for Alfador. Or, hell, look at all the size differences in Chrono Cross' cast. Same armors all around there too.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 03, 2008, 03:37:07 pm
...but a cat...?
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on April 03, 2008, 04:39:25 pm
What? There's a mutant dog, a turnip, a freaky plant thing, a mini-dragon, a pipsqueek alien, etc in CC. Personally, I think a kitty would be a step up!
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 03, 2008, 05:48:56 pm
okay...  good point.  plus there was a cat (dragon) in lunar silver star story... and THAT sort of worked...

but i will defend poshul to the ends of the earth.  don't you dare step on my pooch.

( :D)
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: NeptuneNavigator2001 on April 03, 2008, 08:17:20 pm
Okay, good point.  I didn't think about that....  Erhm...
Poshul's...  Okay.  I don't see anything wrong with any of them.  I kinda like NeoFio, she's cute.
...Still, it would be uh, interesting to see Magus' cat alongside him, ehh...  But what about the communication barrier?  Unlike all the others listed, he can't talk.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Anacalius on April 03, 2008, 11:29:04 pm
Why not just make new armor equippable only by Alfador? Sounds reasonable enough to me. c.c
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 03, 2008, 11:53:57 pm
and he could do a double tech with crono's time traveling cat.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Anacalius on April 04, 2008, 12:25:49 am
Yeah, good idea, name the dual tech "Meow Mix"
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on April 04, 2008, 04:46:52 am
A Double Tech w/Crono where he summons his cat from a gate? Meow MiX-Strike! Yeah, my take's stupid, I know...V_V

Anyways...about the language barrier...Crono & Serge can't talk...Alfador can meow! What I'm wondering would be what the various sprites would look like: surprised, climbing stairs, w/e...probably have to use a lot of external anime/manga emoticon type thingies for Alfador...
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Thought on April 04, 2008, 11:41:14 am
He's a cat, does he need emoticons?
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on April 04, 2008, 02:17:25 pm
I just meant teardrop & exclamation point type things...I dunno...or maybe somehow tilting his head (with a questioning meow?) would be substantial...I just imagine a lot of speed lines in his Techs, I guess...8)
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Thought on April 04, 2008, 03:16:11 pm
I'm just going off cats I've known, but do cats ever display emotion (well... other than the "I look forward to killing you soon" emotion)? ;)
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 04, 2008, 03:41:11 pm
i used to think cats didn't have emotions...

until i discovered icanhazcheezburger.com
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Giga on April 15, 2008, 09:14:12 pm
Schala. The party needs to balance its male:female ratio.

She could be a good magic user as well, and I never played Chrono Cross.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on April 15, 2008, 09:39:43 pm
Technically the male/female ratio is more than fine...Males-Crono, Frog, Magus (optional!)...Females-Marle, Lucca, Ayla...Other-Robo (if you wanted to put him in males then you have to look at the fact that Magus is optional, yeah?)...

Robo has no s3x0r!! O_o
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 15, 2008, 11:17:10 pm
I almost consider Frog to be in the 'other' category...

I feel like the female ratio is actually HIGHER.

Males: Crono
Demi-Human Males: Frog
Optional Male: Magus
Females: Marle, Lucca, Ayla
Other: Robo
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Kebrel on April 16, 2008, 12:24:58 am
V right in this case, Frog has got a wang. And I consider Robo to be male so 4:3

sorry just wanted to say wang
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Anacalius on April 16, 2008, 01:50:33 am
And I consider Robo to be male


How can you consider a hunk of metal to be a male? How can you consider it the potential to have a gender at all? It's a robot, a machine. It's a bunch of metal run by a CPU. That's like saying "I consider my computer to be a male".



Anyways, I'm finding it hard to decide. There's so many choices, and I can't seem to pick one (Though I voted for other, just because I know none of the named characters I would want.) I would say Schala, but that would only work in alternate dimension hacks of CT, because the storyline for her has already been played out up to CC.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Kebrel on April 16, 2008, 02:26:46 am
My laptop is one hot broad 8).
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on April 16, 2008, 05:46:12 am
Well, it's not uncommon to think of certain "inanimate" objects as male or female...cars, boats, etc I guess...and plus, there's a MOTHER Brain that made Robo, right? Prometheus is kind of a hard name to designate as female too...Also, I think the game uses male pronouns when talking about Robo, right? I don't know if the Japanese version used male...word things...I can't remember what those words are in Japanese that denote sex...w/e...you get the gist...anyways...I'm just saying you can make a case for considering Robo a male, not that I necessarily do.

Though I'm not against seeing some Robo on Lucca hentai doujin...maybe he's got something retractable under that lil leather skirt thingy...:P
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 16, 2008, 09:30:28 am
i hate 1-font typing...

(*ahem*keb*ahem*rel)   :D

and robo does not have a retractable ding ding dong.

Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Anacalius on April 17, 2008, 04:53:21 am
If it did have one, then it'd have originally been built to be nothing but a futuristic sex toy.

Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on April 17, 2008, 08:03:11 pm
Hey, we don't know what Lucca could have done during those times she's had to fix him! :P
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: BROJ on April 17, 2008, 09:02:13 pm
Well, it's not uncommon to think of certain "inanimate" objects as male or female...cars, boats, etc I guess...and plus, there's a MOTHER Brain that made Robo, right? Prometheus is kind of a hard name to designate as female too...Also, I think the game uses male pronouns when talking about Robo, right? I don't know if the Japanese version used male...word things...I can't remember what those words are in Japanese that denote sex...w/e...you get the gist...anyways...I'm just saying you can make a case for considering Robo a male, not that I necessarily do.
Exactly; English just happen to be one of the languages that rarely connotates sex to nouns.

Though I'm not against seeing some Robo on Lucca hentai doujin...maybe he's got something retractable under that lil leather skirt thingy...:P
and robo does not have a retractable ding ding dong.
If it did have one, then it'd have originally been built to be nothing but a futuristic sex toy.


Hey, we don't know what Lucca could have done during those times she's had to fix him! :P
WTF
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Anacalius on April 17, 2008, 10:15:45 pm

WTF

Haha. Yeah, definitely a conversation that went strange. -_-
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: neo-fusion on April 22, 2008, 11:08:25 pm
I personally think Toma should get the lime light.

Toma is definetley under rated..

What about Nu or better yet... Johnny lol.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 23, 2008, 12:43:07 am
TOMA TOMA TOMA

I see nothing but potential there.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: neo-fusion on April 23, 2008, 09:57:29 pm
ROM hack for Toma's adventures anyone?
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 24, 2008, 12:36:00 am
That's actually not a bad idea.  Someone just needs to create a bigger set of animations for Toma.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: justin3009 on April 28, 2008, 03:42:53 pm
If you can't call him a male, that's like saying Atropos is a cross dressing pink male with a ribbon...
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: nightmare975 on April 28, 2008, 11:07:56 pm
Hey, we don't know what Lucca could have done during those times she's had to fix him! :P

He's male alright, X_X

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Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Glennleo on April 29, 2008, 12:13:18 am
Hey, we don't know what Lucca could have done during those times she's had to fix him! :P

He's male alright, X_X

 :roll: :lol:
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Zaulche on April 29, 2008, 07:41:52 am
I noticed a lot of people saying that Schala would not work because of the continuity with Chrono Cross, but perhaps it would work. I will try to keep spoilers to a minimum for those that have not played, but from the few times I played Chrono Cross it seems like the only thing that really needs to occur is for both Schala and Lavos to end up in the Darkness Beyond Time.

According to the Chrono Cross FAQ on this site:

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Where is Lavos?

Back in Chrono Trigger, when Crono was killed at the Ocean Palace, Schala was sucked into a dimensional distortion as the Palace collapsed. She remained in the Darkness Beyond Time, a sort of waste basket for overwritten timelines, until Lavos was properly defeated by the team of Chrono Trigger. Lavos arrived there after his defeat, and fused with Schala to remain living. The resulting being, the Time Devourer, had the capacity to consume all space-time once it matured. Belthasar devised Project Kid in order to free Schala and defeat Lavos once and for all.

So perhaps Schala does not get sent to the darkness beyond time in the Ocean Palace. If she is able to escape with the party then the ending can be changed. When you defeat Lavos perhaps this time he attempts the same type of dimensional distortion inside of himself so the whole party gets killed with him, but Schala uses her power again to teleport the party out of Lavos, but she herself is not able to make it out. This can work even if you do not have her actively in your party (like how Kid still walks around with the group in Chrono Cross even if she is not in your active party). Since it is the end of the game she is not killed off leaving you unable to use her for some of the game (like Aerith in Final Fantasy VII). Magus would still have his desire to search for his sister and try and save her, plus with her in the party he might mellow out a bit, making it more believable that he could have double or triple techs with other characters.

As far as the other characters, Glenn being playable as a human is cool and can be done after acquiring or defeating Magus. However, I think it should be optional, since some of his techs might change (since slurp and frog smash related attacks would not make as much sense as a human, though his main attacks used for most of the double and triple techs are still the same).

Alfador would be an interesting addition, but I think it would make a better add on to the party instead of a wholly new character (like Nall form Lunar) who can assist the party but is not technically playable. Then again, as an older man Magus could imbue Alfador with magic and make it more of a beast (akin to Nanaki). That may lead to some neat triple techs between Magus, Schala, and Alfador.

Although Slash would be cool I agree that it does not really fit in with the party that well, though Z-Slash could be a triple tech between Slash, Glenn, and Chrono. Heck, if you can do 8 characters why not have more? Maybe if after you defeat Ozzie, Flea, and Slash you can take them with you if you have Magus in your party. They have their own double and triple techs amongst each other and would work with Magus. This could even be another branch in the main story, where you form a party with magus as the leader and his subordinates if you decide not to save Chrono and try to defeat Lavos with just them.

Atropos and Kino I think would be too much like clones, so I would say to not go with them.

As far as other characters, Toma would be an interesting addition, though I wonder what he would use for attacks. He is an adventurer but he comes off as more of a coward than a warrior in the game. Still, this could just be because you do not get to actually see what he did to find the rainbow shell. He probably has the most leeway out of the other characters as far as being able to create how he would work into the party, since as long as he lives and returns to his time he’ll keep the continuity of his ancestors in later time periods.

Doreen, that would be interesting, but how would that work exactly? She does have a connection to the Masa and Mune. Hmm...

At any rate, I would definitely put my vote in for Schala, Alfador, and Glenn as a human. I think all three can be done in the same hack.

What does everyone else think?
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: BROJ on April 29, 2008, 12:12:42 pm
As far as the other characters, Glenn being playable as a human is cool and can be done after acquiring or defeating Magus. However, I think it should be optional, since some of his techs might change (since slurp and frog smash related attacks would not make as much sense as a human, though his main attacks used for most of the double and triple techs are still the same).
One would have to compensate his abilities, however, due to the loss of Magus.

This could even be another branch in the main story, where you form a party with magus as the leader and his subordinates if you decide not to save Chrono and try to defeat Lavos with just them.
meh...

As far as other characters, Toma would be an interesting addition, though I wonder what he would use for attacks.
He'd probably be an 'Indiana Jones-Archetype'. (whips, guns, you know the drill...)

At any rate, I would definitely put my vote in for Schala, Alfador, and Glenn as a human. I think all three can be done in the same hack.

Hold on there... skipping limitations and all; why would Schala want to join up after the party 'killed' her brother, let alone Alfador? :wink:


P.S. Please only use the color function to *highlight* your points... it's annoying. :roll:
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Zaulche on April 29, 2008, 01:00:13 pm
Why do you find color annoying? It is not like I am using a technicolor raindbow, it is only a singular color change close enough to black that it should not be harder to read. I'll certainly take that into consideration but I do not think I should have to refrain from using color if you are the only one it bothers. I'll need input from other people on this.

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Hold on there... skipping limitations and all; why would Schala want to join up after the party 'killed' her brother, let alone Alfador?

I agree that if you kill Magus Schala would probably not want to come with you, but if you do not kill him and agree to work together then I think it would be fine. Schala could probably talk Magus into changing Glenn back from a Frog if that is what the player wants, as well as taking Alfador along. Thus, three characters in the same hour or so of each other (Schala, Glenn as a human, and Alfador).

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He'd probably be an 'Indiana Jones-Archetype'. (whips, guns, you know the drill...)

Hopefully whips, since Lucca already uses a gun. Or maybe guns for ranged attacks and a whip up close. I Wonder what kind of magic he would be attuned to. Most likely fire.

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meh...

Agreed. I did not think it was a particularly good idea, but it is one, so I thought I would list it.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 29, 2008, 01:47:01 pm
I view Toma as more of a Cid Highwind type.  Smoking a cigar, swearing when he drops his Soda (or Sake, deptending on the translation).  Maybe even using a spear.

Ever since Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinetrials I've viewed whips in RPGs as not only weak, but sort of... feminine.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: justin3009 on April 29, 2008, 08:07:00 pm
Toma doesn't seem to fit right, he's really out of place from the looks.  And uh..adding 8 is already a hastle, I don't think we're going to try 9 or more+ anytime soon.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 29, 2008, 08:13:39 pm
So who's character 8 in the minds of those involved?
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: justin3009 on April 29, 2008, 08:24:48 pm
Well, I'm planning to go with Human Glenn, if i'm not lazy, i'll make one of Schala as well.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Mauron on April 29, 2008, 08:47:49 pm
I've mostly been thinking of the potential for an eighth character, while looking forward to what other people will do with the patch when it's finished.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Moudini on May 05, 2008, 08:11:04 am
Gaspar.  He practically begs to join your party anyway.  I know it's a translation mix-up but you could run with it.  He's the coolest NPC in the game anyway. 

Sure, he only has like 3 animations, one of them sleeping, but he doesn't need any more.  Every RPG needs a useless, narcoleptic old man.  His unique line of dialogue when he's in the driver's seat of the Epoch could be "...Zzz...zzzz...zzzz..." followed by the two passengers doing their "surprise" expression right before they blast off.

Here's some tech ideas for him

LifeAlert - Contacts 911 when he has fallen in battle
GetOffMyLawn - Verbally scolds the enemy and shakes his cane at them
Matlock - Summons Andy Griffith to convict the enemy in a court of law, ending the battle
Kamehameha - Ultimate damage on all targets

Triple Tech (Gaspar/Crono/Marle)
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WarStory - Gaspar sits the two youths down and proceeds to spin them a yarn about his days as a fighter pilot
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on May 06, 2008, 11:50:28 am
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Triple Tech (Gaspar/Crono/Marle)
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WarStory - Gaspar sits the two youths down and proceeds to spin them a yarn about his days as a fighter pilot

this made me laugh out loud.  thanks.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: VincentGAU8 on May 07, 2008, 08:42:56 pm
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Triple Tech (Gaspar/Crono/Marle)
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WarStory - Gaspar sits the two youths down and proceeds to spin them a yarn about his days as a fighter pilot

this made me laugh out loud.  thanks.

Wow, Gaspar and Top Gun!! well, as 8th member, why not?
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Oatmeal1209 on June 12, 2008, 01:50:46 pm
I'd only vote for Alfador if there could be a Magus-Alfador-Crono triple tech "Catvalanche".

I have to agree.



...Catvalanche.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Daniela on June 21, 2008, 08:41:55 pm
I voted for Schala, mostly because we could have an all-magic user as well as Ayla, who is all-physical =P

Edit: Oh, and to balance out the male:female ratio =/
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: V_Translanka on June 21, 2008, 08:47:50 pm
Uh, Magus is all-magic...And some of Ayla's Techs inflict magic-like damage...well, Twister anyways...although Kiss & Charm also count as being magical, I believe...*shrugs*
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Daniela on June 21, 2008, 08:49:33 pm
Well, we could add Schala to balance the male:female ratio, because I consider Robo to be male =/
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Delta Dragon on June 21, 2008, 08:58:52 pm
I'm pretty sure Robo is a guy.  Especially if you compare him to Atropos.  I voted for other.  Glenn or Schala would be nice, but I think it would be really cool to get Cyrus. 
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: BROJ on June 21, 2008, 09:19:33 pm
I'm pretty sure Robo is a guy.  Especially if you compare him to Atropos. 
Please, let's not go there (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,5168.msg93949.html#msg93949) again... :roll:
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: RoxSilverFox on June 21, 2008, 09:55:22 pm
I think Schala coz she would be awesome, sort of like a female character as powerful as magus. Although I would like to see Toma as playable as well he'd be pretty awesome too.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: RoxSilverFox on June 21, 2008, 10:04:52 pm
Gaspar.  He practically begs to join your party anyway.  I know it's a translation mix-up but you could run with it.  He's the coolest NPC in the game anyway. 

Sure, he only has like 3 animations, one of them sleeping, but he doesn't need any more.  Every RPG needs a useless, narcoleptic old man.  His unique line of dialogue when he's in the driver's seat of the Epoch could be "...Zzz...zzzz...zzzz..." followed by the two passengers doing their "surprise" expression right before they blast off.

Here's some tech ideas for him

LifeAlert - Contacts 911 when he has fallen in battle
GetOffMyLawn - Verbally scolds the enemy and shakes his cane at them
Matlock - Summons Andy Griffith to convict the enemy in a court of law, ending the battle
Kamehameha - Ultimate damage on all targets

Triple Tech (Gaspar/Crono/Marle)
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WarStory - Gaspar sits the two youths down and proceeds to spin them a yarn about his days as a fighter pilot


LOL this would be ultimate awesomeness
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Chrono'99 on June 24, 2008, 09:32:04 am
I voted for Schala, because she simply kicks ass -- IF some kickass sprites are made.
Oswego del Fuego had already made a Schala spriteset for Crimson Echoes back in 2005. It was about 75% complete.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: FaustWolf on June 24, 2008, 10:33:29 am
Yeah, I remember seeing those in the "Playable Character Mod Schala" thread. I'm not entirely sure whether RoxSilverFox and MagilsugaM are using those as a base or if they're doing theirs from scratch.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: RoxSilverFox on June 24, 2008, 06:54:38 pm
Yeah, I remember seeing those in the "Playable Character Mod Schala" thread. I'm not entirely sure whether RoxSilverFox and MagilsugaM are using those as a base or if they're doing theirs from scratch.

We're doing ours from scratch pretty much, we used Lucca's sprites and modified them. It's still a work in progress MagilsugaM is busy attacking heads and I'm left doing nothing  :lol:  well for now at least.

But alas I think the people will want classic "over dressed" Schala as playable.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on June 24, 2008, 09:59:50 pm
I for one didn't mind her sleeker, sexier look, actually...

I mean, as the showcase Princess of Zeal and daughter of the megalomaniac Queen Zeal, she was probably forced to act, look, dress within strict perimeters.  Perhaps after leaving Zeal (whatever happened to her) she was finally able to let her hair down and be her own person.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: RoxSilverFox on June 24, 2008, 11:10:13 pm
I for one didn't mind her sleeker, sexier look, actually...

I mean, as the showcase Princess of Zeal and daughter of the megalomaniac Queen Zeal, she was probably forced to act, look, dress within strict perimeters.  Perhaps after leaving Zeal (whatever happened to her) she was finally able to let her hair down and be her own person.

Yeah I kinda thought that too, but other people think otherwise but I don't give a damn people can think what they want.

I figure if they want something completely different why don't they do their own sprites on another hand I'm happy to take tips and opinions  :D
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on June 24, 2008, 11:44:23 pm
Well are you planning on USING these tilesheets for any purpose or are you just making them for others to use...
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: RoxSilverFox on June 25, 2008, 12:18:02 am
Well are you planning on USING these tilesheets for any purpose or are you just making them for others to use...

Tile sheets? what the hell's a tile sheet?
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on June 25, 2008, 12:32:09 am
whoops.  my bad.  i was multitasking when i said that.

character models.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: RoxSilverFox on June 25, 2008, 12:57:59 am
whoops.  my bad.  i was multitasking when i said that.

character models.

I make my sprites for others to use but I am planning on rounding up a bunch of people and making a CT patch
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: ZealKnight on July 07, 2008, 07:30:04 pm
I say Toma. Mainly because If it was Schala that would mess with the story and the only character in the game that seems different or may have a different style of weapon or perhaps a new element of some kind like earth or plant.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: MagilsugaM on July 11, 2008, 06:51:13 pm
whoops.  my bad.  i was multitasking when i said that.

character models.

I make my sprites for others to use but I am planning on rounding up a bunch of people and making a CT patch

Let's comple Flea and Ozzie Sprites!!!!!

I allways wanted to make a pacth were you can use then with magus as main characters!!!
And then you fight Lord Crono in Crono's castle  :lol:
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Nickolz on July 12, 2008, 12:15:33 am
Toma, the drunkard we all love ^^
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: kritterpher on July 13, 2008, 04:52:47 am
   I think Fiona or Tata wouldn't be a bad choice.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: RoxSilverFox on July 13, 2008, 07:51:59 am
whoops.  my bad.  i was multitasking when i said that.

character models.

I make my sprites for others to use but I am planning on rounding up a bunch of people and making a CT patch

Let's comple Flea and Ozzie Sprites!!!!!

I allways wanted to make a pacth were you can use then with magus as main characters!!!
And then you fight Lord Crono in Crono's castle  :lol:

That actually doesn't sound like a bad idea we should do that once we finish Schala
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: ViceLine on July 13, 2008, 05:18:27 pm
I voted for Glenn but meh I'd rather see something more shocking:

Dalton (Golem Boss portal spits him out somewhere near the Commons)
Queen Zeal (not sure how that would work but I liked her spells though Hallation is overpowered)
Ozzie (joins after being defeated at his fort instead of just falling into a pit)
Johnny (lots of techs involving running people over so not really that great)
Azala (chooses to fly back with Crono and Co.)
Sir Krawlie (joins after you defeat him.  im joking of course ^^)
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Lakonthegreat on July 14, 2008, 03:29:56 am
Belthasar's Nu.




Turn him back on, and away he goes bashing people for ungodly amounts of damage.




Him or Spekkio's pink Nu form.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: MagilsugaM on July 18, 2008, 04:17:05 am
I voted for Glenn but meh I'd rather see something more shocking:

Sir Krawlie (joins after you defeat him.  im joking of course ^^)


LOL at that It will be cool to know were him and his speaking forgs came out. They are the only mutants that can speak I guess...
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: hotspot on July 20, 2008, 10:00:16 pm
I chose schala, schala is a great sorceress it would be good to have a great magician on chrono's team.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Ekul on July 24, 2008, 02:12:08 am
I voted for Schala. If Johnny was on there, I would have voted for him. I know there's an other option but...

Toplist for me:
1. Johnny
2. Schala
3. Atropos
4. Toma
5. A Reptite
6. A Nu
7. Noreen

That's not to say any of the other characters listed in this thread or elsewhere wouldn't be cool, these guys are just so awesome in my opinion.

Real quickly, let me explain my choice of Johnny. I think he would be cool because we have at least one person from each timeline except 2300.
65,000,000 BC - Ayla
12,000 BC - Magus
600 AD - Frog
1,000 AD - Crono, Lucca, Marle
1,999 AD - Robo
2,300 AD - None.

Robo, 1999? Well, he has not been online since the apocalypse, so everything in 2300 is new to him. Saying that he belongs to 2300 is like saying Magus belongs to 600 AD or a guru belongs to his area. Sure, they may have spent time in that era, but time skipped for them, whether literally or mentally. The only guys who don't fight you from 2300 are Johnny, his robot pals, the dystopic humans, Balthazar and his robotic Nu. Everything else either wants you terminated or wants to eat your brains.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Delta Dragon on July 24, 2008, 03:16:38 pm
We don't know exactly how long Robo wasn't operational.  It's possible it wasn't Lavos that shut him down.  And Magus had been in 600AD long enough so that he pretty much did.  I mean, he had been there for like all of his adult life.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on July 24, 2008, 03:32:40 pm
Maybe Robo was active at some point between 1999 AD and 2300 AD, but it's safe to say that he was BUILT before 1999 AD.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Ekul on July 24, 2008, 05:42:14 pm
Still, Magus wasn't raised in 600AD. But I suppose I can see where you're coming from. I still don't think he belongs there either way.

Robo states that there used to be humans around him the last time he was activated. If he was active after the day of Lavos, that probably means something attacked the dome, killing the humans and shutting off Robo. His behavior didn't seem to indicate this, though.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: Delta Dragon on July 24, 2008, 06:50:12 pm
That's likely but it's possible it was the other people in 2300.  But unlikely.
Title: Re: Who do you think should be the 8th character?
Post by: ONSLAUGHT on August 14, 2008, 03:24:54 pm
I'd say Cyrus.